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Serenity: A talk with Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres, and Morena Baccarin

Copyright © 2005

 

Jeffrey Overstreet joined a small crowd of journalists at the Serenity film junket in L.A. on Thursday, September 18.

Here's a transcript of a press conference with Nathan Fillion (Malcolm Reynolds), Gina Torres (Zoe), and Morena Baccarin (Inara) ... who, by the way, seemed almost to be in character, with their sharp banter and personal styles and wardrobe that resemble their characters' styles quite closely.

(The questions raised by the press have been paraphrased here. *'d questions were raised by Jeffrey Overstreet.)


What was it like going back? Was it like a déjà vu experience?

Nathan: Vindicating.

Gina: [In a sultry tone.] It was good for me. [laughs]

It was déjà vu. I think we all had different experiences about going onto the ship… the ship set

Morena: What?!  It’s not a real ship? Wait a second! Wait a second!

Gina: No! I just found that out!

It was the same but it was different. It was bigger in some places and smaller in others, and it went up in other places. But there was definitely … redemption  is a word that Adam Baldwin likes to use.

Morena: It felt like we hadn’t left, too. It was a little different. It was a little like coming into your living room when your mom rearranged all the furniture. Things aren’t where they were, but you’re still home. And it felt like we picked up right where we left off, sort of.

Gina: Absolutely.  Just seeing each other was great. Although we never really stopped seeing each other.

Nathan: We never stopped seeing each other, but you know what actually was good? Seeing the characters again. [turns to Gina] Seeing you guys in your outfits again… [turns to Morena] Your outfits too! For me, that was good.

Gina: [to Nathan] Focus!

How much time passed between the cancellation of the show and the making of the movie?

All: Two years.

Nathan: Joss kept the spirit up, saying you guys would be back. But was there ever a time when you felt like you’d never come back to it?

Gina: The day that we were canceled. [laughs]

Nathan: Joss had that plan of finding it another home. He said, “I’ll find it another home.’  And I said… [laughing in a very unconvincing way] Hey, that’s really great! That’s a wonderful thing to say! It’s really dead, isn’t it?!

I wasn’t prepared to fall in love with Firefly the way I did. And I wasn’t prepared for Firefly to dump me the way it did…

Gina: Like a cold crustry whore. We got dumped.

Nathan: I wasn’t prepared to have that hope and say, “Maybe, maybe…”

Gina: You didn’t want to get dumped again.

Nathan: Well, I didn’t want to set myself up for another depression and gain 20 pounds sitting around my house, knock on wood…

Gina: Not that that happened.

Morena: [laughing]

Nathan: Right!

 

How much did you have to practice or work out to get back into character?

Morena: Well, I had a lot of sex.

[laughter all around]

Gina: God bless you.

Morena: I had to say it. It’s a whore thing.

Nathan: [Hard] to get back into character? No. Certainly, the TV series was a process because we had time to learn the character.

Gina: But we had seven months of just learning each other, and falling in love, and falling into these people and getting to know each other.

Nathan: Feeling each other out, so to speak.

Gina: And by the time we got back, these relationships were already established. And I know, for me, it was just about getting into those damn pants.

Morena: It wasn’t the gun?

Gina: No, no, that old friend, no.

 

Are you all signed on for sequels?

Gina: Yes.

Morena: Yes. Two more.

Nathan: You are?

Gina: Next question!

[laughter]

 

What was it like working with Summer Glau?

Nathan: [joking] She was unprepared. She was unprofessional…

Gina: That’s not fair. She’s not here to defend herself.

Nathan: … but she was flexible.

Morena: She’s so sweet, it’s hard to say those things about her even jokingly.

Gina: We all just wanted to take care of Summer in our own way. [She then adopts a low, sexy tone...] And some ways are kind of illegal. 

[laughter]

But we don’t talk about that.

Nathan: Not in this state!

Gina: She’s adorable and she’s sweet and she just wanted so much to do a great job. So, how do you not support that?

 

*The zeal that your fans show recalls what happened over the years with Star Trek, what happened when the Star Wars movies came out, what happened when The Matrix movies came along. With Star Wars, people tap into the spiritual conflict, good versus evil, the light and dark side of the Force. With The Matrix, there’s the whole idea of waking up to reality, and realizing you’ve been deceived about the way of the world.

What is it about Firefly and Serenity that resonates so intensely in the minds and hearts of your fans? Why are they so enthusiastic and so drawn in?

Nathan: I think it’s the same reason that I’m drawn to it—the people. These characters. I am invested. I’ve spent time with them, I’ve learned about them. I’ve hung out with them. I’ve learned about them through their choices and the decisions that they make… and I’m invested in these people. I like them. They’re flawed. They’re not all perfect… except for Malcolm Reynolds… and I’m invested. I think people are inviested. That’s Joss’s gift.

Morena: You can relate to something with each of the characters. I’ve been watching them recently [turns to Zoe and Nathan]—and you guys are great, by the way.

Gina: You too.

Morena: You didn’t have to say that.

Gina: Yes I kinda did.

Morena: I think what was drawing me to it again and again was the stories… they’re stories that you want to be told. They’re not just relative to that universe. They symbolize something. I think that the style of Joss’s writing is so grand and stylized, and it’s sort of Shakespearean. These peoples plights are extremely accessible. And I think that’s what draws me in as a human being.

 

*Can you say more about what that plight is, or what it is that the series is telling people that they want to be told?

Morena: Each character has their own, it seems.

Gina: I think unlike The Matrix and the Star Wars series where you have a very heightened reality, and black and white is very clear, and the lines are definitively drawn. You fall into it because you want to aspire to the grandness of these heroes that are put in front of you.

We’re just regular people in extraordinary circumstances, and that in turn can be more inspiring, because you think that these people, as jacked up as they are in these circumstances, with all of these issues and unpreparedness, can meet these tasks and actually survive them and learn something from them and get past it and live another day, then I can too.

And as Morena said, we all go about it—each character goes about it—differently. And so there’s always an opportunity for you to see yourself in whoever you see yourself and how they come to these tasks and get past them.

Morena: And they’re each discovering things about themselves that they didn’t know were there, and that’s what’s interesting to watch. [turns to Nathan] Your heart. You’re discovering in some of the episodes with Summer … you’re discovering that Malcolm Reynolds has his vulnerable side … he has something he cares about. You may not think so.

Nathan: I do. These are nobodies. I don’t have very much in common with Jedi Knights. I have a good deal in common with nobodies.

 

Going to comic conventions and meeting the fans… can you picture yourself in 20 years coming back and doing a spoof of all of this?

Nathan: [doing his best William Shatner impression] Get a life! Have you ever kissed a girl?!

Did you see Trekkies, that documentary on Trekkies? There are people out there who are fanatical. And I prefer to use the entire term. They’re fanatics. I find Serenity fans to be thoughtful… pretty intelligent people. They’re really wonderful. My experiences have been really positive. And I can say this about the fans—we all have one thing in common. We’re all in love with the same damn show. If they think they’re fans, they’ve got nothin’ on me. I’m a fan.

 

How much do you find your own personalities in your characters?

Gina: I think it would be a much more interesting question if we answered about each other.

Nathan: You do me!

Gina: I think what Malcolm and Nathan have in common is that ultimately they do want to do the right thing, no matter what they put you through on the way to the right thing… and you kinda have to love them for it. They both do have a great moral streak that runs through them, and it’s endearing and it’s wonderful.

Morena: But there’s something about Nathan that doesn’t have that dark [streak.] There’s something about Malcolm Reynolds that’s a fallen man.

Nathan: Really?

Morena: Maybe you do. Are you a fallen man?

Gina: If you’ve ever seen him play Halo, he’s a whole other person.

Nathan: Both of you, very classy, very sexy. [Morena,] you are a little more on the demure side, whereas, Gina, I know you are not to be crossed.

Gina: Oh! [Surprised, and maybe a little pleased]

Nathan: You’re a force to reckoned with, aren’t  you? You know you are. You don’t lose your cool. You never lose your cool.

[Gina is laughing.]

Nathan: You are not to be crossed.

Morena: But she sure likes to play like she’s not going to do anything, and she’s shy about it, but yeah… it’s true.

Nathan: Remember when I wanted something taken care of, and I called you?   Somebody called me and said, ‘Nate, can you get this taken care of and I said ‘Sure.’ I called you?’

Morena: But you know, Gina’s a lot more feminine and ‘girlier’ for lack of a better term.

Gina: That’s true. Thank you.

 

What was different now that you were doing a movie, with a bigger budget? What were you required to do differently for the film?

Morena: I had to do archery, which was very cool. I really took to it, actually. I remember that when we were shooting, that scene came where I’m supposed to shoot one of the Reavers with an arrow.  [And they were like,] “Alright, let’s clear the set! Only people here that need to be here! Everybody put on goggles!” All of the camera guys have these hard hats on. Everybody’s freaking out. And they gave me an X to hit. And every time I hit that X.

Gina: That’s right. You got good at it almost immediately.

Anything else?

Gina: It was pretty straightforward from series to movie. Zoe still has that gun. She’s still right by this guy’s side.

Nathan: Malcolm was allowed to be a little darker than the series allowed him to be. In the series, we experienced a little pressure to make him… [puts on a shiny, happy voice] more likeable! And nicer! Let’s make him funnier! Let’s give the show more action!

Morena: Jazz hands! [laughing]

Nathan: And Mary Parent at Universal, she had the faith in Joss’s vision to say, ‘Do it how you want it to be done.’ So we were allowed to make Malcolm a little darker than he he was. And it made a lot of sense. And in the time that passed since the series, before the movie, events have happened that have made him a little more bitter. If there’s one thing Malcolm finds easy to express, it’s bitterness and anger. He’s comfortable there.

 

And what was it like coming to the script wondering if Mal and Inara would finally hook up?

[Well, folks, I’d love to transcribe their answers for you, but you’ll just have to wait for the movie. I ain’t spoilin’ nothing!]